10 m² of personal living space + 20 m² for every 4 ppl as bathroom / kitchen
2100 kcal/day
1400 kWh/year, but this already includes public services (education/healthcare)
1 washing machine per 20 ppl
2.4 kg clothing / year
wear tops for three days and bottoms for 15 days without washing
1 laptop per 4 people with a yearly power consumption of 62 kWh. (bizzarely they talk about an 800 MHz computer and seem to confuse HDD and RAM). If your gaming computer used 400 W you could use it for 150 hr/year.
You could double everything in this post too and that’s only 60% consumption.
20 m² of personal living space + 20 m² for every 2 ppl as bathroom / kitchen
4200 kcal/day
2800 kWh/year, but this already includes public services (education/healthcare)
1 washing machine per 10 ppl
2.4 kg clothing / 6 months
wear tops for 1.5 days and bottoms for 7.5 days without washing
1 laptop per 2 people with a yearly power consumption of 62 kWh. (bizzarely they talk about an 800 MHz computer and seem to confuse HDD and RAM). If your gaming computer used 400 W you could use it for 300 hr/year.
That seems a lot more reasonable to me and we still come in under carrying capacity
“It is important to understand that the DLS represents a minimum floor for decent living. It does not represent a an aspirational standard and certainly does not represent a ceiling. However, it is also a level of welfare not currently achieved by the vast majority of people. A new paper by Hoffman et al finds that 96.5 percent of people in low- and middle-income countries are deprived of at least one DLS dimension…we can conclude that 6.4 billion people, more than 80% of the world’s population, are deprived of DLS.”
The authors are not suggesting that everyone be forced on DLS at gunpoint. They are suggesting an absolute bare minimum standard that the overwhelming majority of people on Earth do not yet even have. Quite obviously any excess production could and would be used to increase standard of living.
They live in a world where 700 million people are currently starving. Do you think you care about the washing machines if your children have nothing to eat?
A simpler solution is to simply abolish wealth hoarding, impose sensible consumption limits (so, no cars or commercial plane travel, no meat, no 800 watt gaming rigs), and continue to encourage population decline. Boom, everyone is healthy, the air is clean, and you can keep your house.
Any animal that would fight against sensible restrictions like these, which seek to make the earth livable for their children and grandchildren, is rabid and should be extirpated.
Yeah but DLS would be a significant downgrade for many people, who already fight the suggestion to only eat meat six days a week tooth and nail.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6013539/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10537420/
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/suppl/10.1021/acs.est.3c03957/suppl_file/es3c03957_si_001.pdf
Things that count as DLS:
I’m gonna need a lot more than 10 square meters of space if everyone is changing their shirts twice a week. Yuck.
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You could double everything in this post too and that’s only 60% consumption.
That seems a lot more reasonable to me and we still come in under carrying capacity
ITT: people who didn’t even glance at the study.
Quoting from the study:
The authors are not suggesting that everyone be forced on DLS at gunpoint. They are suggesting an absolute bare minimum standard that the overwhelming majority of people on Earth do not yet even have. Quite obviously any excess production could and would be used to increase standard of living.
They live in a world where 700 million people are currently starving. Do you think you care about the washing machines if your children have nothing to eat?
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A simpler solution is to simply abolish wealth hoarding, impose sensible consumption limits (so, no cars or commercial plane travel, no meat, no 800 watt gaming rigs), and continue to encourage population decline. Boom, everyone is healthy, the air is clean, and you can keep your house.
that’s how you start a civil war. lots of people will rebel against oppression
Any animal that would fight against sensible restrictions like these, which seek to make the earth livable for their children and grandchildren, is rabid and should be extirpated.
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Honest question, are you illiterate?
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