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  • Since the Nazis were fighting the Soviets in cold conditions, they did a lot of research on hypothermia. Their methodology involved putting Jews out in the cold and measuring how long it took for them to get hypothermia.

    There was a lot of debate over whether the results of their research should be used or just be destroyed because using it might encourage future scientists to use immoral methods in their research. They ultimately decided to use that research.

    But when they looked at the data, there was no real science happening. They were just freezing people to death out of cruelty with no benefit to science.

    A lot of “Nazi science” is very overrated. Turns out cruel and hateful people don’t make for good scientists. Science is done by people and people and if those people ignore morality, they become very warped. “Science at all costs, ignore morality” doesn’t actually result in useful research. It may feel like ignoring ethics in favour of scientific progress is a strong pro-science stance, but it’s just another fascist power fantasy.



  • Every day thousands upon thousands of people were being killed. Why? Because they were wearing the uniform of an enemy country. Killing people for wearing the wrong clothes (or maybe just standing too close to someone wearing the wrong clothes) is what a war is.

    It strikes me as odd to be super upset over internment when more Japanese people were killed when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked. Internment was obviously bad, but compared to other shit happening at the time? I guess the people killed in the war couldn’t tell their story afterwards, so we don’t care about that? Or maybe it’s because we’ve been indoctrinated to believe that killing someone for wearing the wrong clothes is good and honourable?

    There was a Japanese insurgency in Hawaii, so some of the people held in internment camps were actually insurgents. Obviously most of them weren’t. But what’s the difference between that scenario and hitting a military target and a lot of civilians getting killed because they happened to live a little too close to a military target? Because that kind of shit was happening all the time in WWII.