• Typhoon@lemmy.ca
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    This is one of many reasons the perfect eye argument by creationists is utter bullshit.

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      22 hours ago

      As someone with chronic back pain, eyes are the least of my issues with creationists theories

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      Ugh that drives me crazy. The human eye is a perfect example of observable evolution. Organisms exist with every stage of eye development, from a photosensitive spot to a more advanced convergent evolution of our eye. And the human eye is poorly designed for it’s current use, resulting in a significant percentage of people requiring corrective lenses.

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        It’s a good example of evolving towards a local maximum then being unable to travel through a valley to a more optimal design. As such it confirms exactly what evolutionary theory would predict, and not what “intelligent design by an omniscient creator” would predict.

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        most of the dipshit “the eye is to perfect to have evolved” people also have cheap optics on their rifles. something to think about

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        In the lore of Lord of the Rings, it is said that the supreme being of that universe personally created both men and elves and since men were his favorite creations, he gave them the gift of… having pretty short lives (wow, thanks). Well, octopuses have a much shorter lifespan than us, so if our universe’s creator is anything like the Middle Earth’s then there’s a good chance they are his favorites.

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          It’s been a while, so correct me if I’m wrong; but isn’t the gift moving on to something else after a mortal life? If I recall correctly, elves are stuck in the physical world forever. Even when they die don’t they just go to some limnal place for a while then come back?

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            Essentially, yeah.

            Elves’ spirits either linger in Middle Earth or go to the Halls of Mandos in Aman. After some period of time, they can be re-embodied if they choose.

            The souls of men did not linger, they were called to the Halls of Mandos upon death. Their souls would stay for a while in Mandos, separate from the elves, until they departed the Halls to only Eru knows where.

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          isn’t middle earth wholly explicitly our earth? and thus eru iluvitar is explicitly the creator of our earth.

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      Yeah, my eyes are so perfect, I read that as ‘cartoonists’ and spent a good few minutes confused.